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Re: My ban time is up. Why am I not un-banned?

Postby hmslanders » Sun Aug 18, 2019 5:58 am

"Welcome to Discord! These Terms of Service (“Terms”), which include and hereby incorporate the Privacy Policy at https://discordapp.com/privacy (“Privacy Policy”), are a legal agreement between Discord Inc."

"Governing Law. By visiting or using the Service, you agree that the laws of the United States and the State of California, without regard to principles of conflict of laws and regardless of your location, will govern these Terms and any dispute of any sort that might arise between you and the Company."

Direct quote from the Discord terms of service above.

"California's wiretapping law is a "two-party consent" law. California makes it a crime to record or eavesdrop on any confidential communication, including a private conversation or telephone call, without the consent of all parties to the conversation. See Cal. Penal Code § 632."

Cited proof of California law and how what Dietnerb (Ben) did was in fact illegal.

Sources:
https://discordapp.com/terms
http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/califor ... ording-law

Go ahead and argue with the law all you want but I have provided proof that Dietnerb, and by extension Hello Miners it self, has infringed on my rights as an American citizen.
Last edited by hmslanders on Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:29 am, edited 2 times in total.

Re: My ban time is up. Why am I not un-banned?

Postby Cheerios32 » Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:53 am

Nova wrote:"Welcome to Discord! These Terms of Service (“Terms”), which include and hereby incorporate the Privacy Policy at https://discordapp.com/privacy (“Privacy Policy”), are a legal agreement between Discord Inc."

"Governing Law. By visiting or using the Service, you agree that the laws of the United States and the State of California, without regard to principles of conflict of laws and regardless of your location, will govern these Terms and any dispute of any sort that might arise between you and the Company."

Direct quote from the Discord terms of service above.

"California's wiretapping law is a "two-party consent" law. California makes it a crime to record or eavesdrop on any confidential communication, including a private conversation or telephone call, without the consent of all parties to the conversation. See Cal. Penal Code § 632."

Cited proof of California law and how what Dietnerb (Ben) did was in fact illegal.

Sources:
https://discordapp.com/terms
http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/recordi ... versations

Go ahead and argue with the law all you want but I have provided proof that Dietnerb, and by extension Hello Miners it self, has infringed on my rights as an American citizen.


Two issues:

1) The second link doesn't work.

2) You cannot hold the entire server accountable for the actions of one person when they were not told to do something by anyone else. That's like me holding the entire UK government responsible for whatever dear old Boris does next.

Your argument is not wrong however (assuming the second link is merely a typo).
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Re: My ban time is up. Why am I not un-banned?

Postby hmslanders » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:25 am

Cheerios32 wrote:
Nova wrote:"Welcome to Discord! These Terms of Service (“Terms”), which include and hereby incorporate the Privacy Policy at https://discordapp.com/privacy (“Privacy Policy”), are a legal agreement between Discord Inc."

"Governing Law. By visiting or using the Service, you agree that the laws of the United States and the State of California, without regard to principles of conflict of laws and regardless of your location, will govern these Terms and any dispute of any sort that might arise between you and the Company."

Direct quote from the Discord terms of service above.

"California's wiretapping law is a "two-party consent" law. California makes it a crime to record or eavesdrop on any confidential communication, including a private conversation or telephone call, without the consent of all parties to the conversation. See Cal. Penal Code § 632."

Cited proof of California law and how what Dietnerb (Ben) did was in fact illegal.

Sources:
https://discordapp.com/terms
http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/recordi ... versations

Go ahead and argue with the law all you want but I have provided proof that Dietnerb, and by extension Hello Miners it self, has infringed on my rights as an American citizen.


Two issues:

1) The second link doesn't work.

2) You cannot hold the entire server accountable for the actions of one person when they were not told to do something by anyone else. That's like me holding the entire UK government responsible for whatever dear old Boris does next.

Your argument is not wrong however (assuming the second link is merely a typo).



http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/califor ... ording-law

When, I had copy and pasted the post it took what was on the page and since HM shortens links it did that. I will fix it in the main reply.

Re: My ban time is up. Why am I not un-banned?

Postby hmslanders » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:35 am

The issue with the whole thing is this, an employee of HelloMiners illegally recorded multiple users, breaching their rights. That illegally obtained footage/info was then spread around the staff and the player base. Regardless of if I did was right or wrong the staff team should never have even got the "evidence", it was illegally obtained. The whole time staff have played this off like I'm some pedo when literally everyone in the call had no issues with what I was saying, then on top of all of that staff fail to publicly apologies to me or announce that what Ben did was wrong. As far as I see it, HelloMiners openly supports what Ben did. If this whole thing isn't defamation I don't know what is.

Re: My ban time is up. Why am I not un-banned?

Postby hmslanders » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:40 am

If I'm denied my un-ban I at least want an apology for all the stuff that has happened to me as well as I want to see staff publicly say they don't support the actions of Dietnerb. That's all I want.

A permanent ban for what happened is quite ridiculous, yes, what I did was wrong but compared to what others have done in the community as well as what others do online? I think my ban isn't suited for the crime. At least set the ban to some sort of time interval? Even if it's another two years?

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