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Ban Appeal: Jerome_clegg69

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Re: Ban Appeal: Jerome_clegg69

Postby Icyinactive79 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:29 am

"Insanity"
More like "Nazanity".
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Re: Ban Appeal: Jerome_clegg69

Postby CaptainAdurica » Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:45 am

Icyluke79 wrote:"Insanity"
More like "Nazanity".

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Re: Ban Appeal: Jerome_clegg69

Postby Tekton9 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:47 am

No, dumbass, even in this post you still are making it very obvious your views have not changed. You are adamantly refusing to apologize for this hateful viewpoint, and instead repeatedly and very obviously insist that you will not discuss your views on this server, rather than convince us your views have changed. Therefore you should not be let back on the server

I made a little rhyme for you to understand easier.

If they still support Hitler’s ideals,
they aren’t allowed to appeal.



If it’s really that hard to say “I don’t actually support Hitler, I was trolling,” then stop wasting our staffs’ time.
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Re: Ban Appeal: Jerome_clegg69

Postby Sweg » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:35 am

Tekton9 wrote:No, dumbass, even in this post you still are making it very obvious your views have not changed. You are adamantly refusing to apologize for this hateful viewpoint, and instead repeatedly and very obviously insist that you will not discuss your views on this server, rather than convince us your views have changed. Therefore you should not be let back on the server

I made a little rhyme for you to understand easier.

If they still support Hitler’s ideals,
they aren’t allowed to appeal.



If it’s really that hard to say “I don’t actually support Hitler, I was trolling,” then stop wasting our staffs’ time.

Also why should we trust a man to keep his word on not doing something again if he’s a fucking neo nazi
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Re: Ban Appeal: Jerome_clegg69

Postby CaptainAdurica » Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:07 am

Sweg wrote:
Tekton9 wrote:No, dumbass, even in this post you still are making it very obvious your views have not changed. You are adamantly refusing to apologize for this hateful viewpoint, and instead repeatedly and very obviously insist that you will not discuss your views on this server, rather than convince us your views have changed. Therefore you should not be let back on the server

I made a little rhyme for you to understand easier.

If they still support Hitler’s ideals,
they aren’t allowed to appeal.



If it’s really that hard to say “I don’t actually support Hitler, I was trolling,” then stop wasting our staffs’ time.

Also why should we trust a man to keep his word on not doing something again if he’s a fucking neo nazi


Stop forcing a person to change their view on life because you dont like it.

@Tek
How do u call him dumbass if you fail to understand that he hasnt changed but said that he will keep his views to himself :|
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Re: Ban Appeal: Jerome_clegg69

Postby nightemperor » Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:16 am

~Foxy wrote:
CaptainAdurica wrote:
Ravenmoon01(~T90X27) wrote:Thank you for appealing again. While your mandatory ban period has expired, you are still required to convince the server and its players that you will not cause more trouble if unbanned, especially not for a similar reason to your current ban. You do not "need" to be unbanned, that is still up for decision, and this appeal can end up denied if decided as such.

If anyone has more specific details or evidence to provide for or against the situation, please do. That aside, staff will discuss this, and will hopefully reply with an official decision soon. In the mean time, please don't start another flame war :)


How does he convince every player here that he won't do it again if all these guys cant get over what he did months back?
Yea sure he is still a nazi and those are his beliefs. Understandable that you find it sick and all but you cant change someones beliefs by threatening them over a minecraft server. He has given his word that he wouldn't share his beliefs on this platform anymore but yall cant get over the fact that he did it once again.

Sorry Raven (even though your my favorite mod)
Adu is right. We should give him a second chance. Even if we dont agree with his beliefs. Sure it was hurtful to some and yet the mods allowed endershack back. I see no harm in this. If he does mess up again. Thats just him and not others faults


The guy is a neo nazi and hasn't shown to have changed his ideas. He just promises to not talk about it. When did we start accepting nazism as just "political beliefs"? Fair reminder this guy adores a man who killed 6 million Jews. My and many others families gave their life to fight the sickening ideals that this guy believes in. Nazism isn't normal and shouldn't be seen as normal. It's not a way of life, it's not a political belief, it's saying "Actually, what Hitler did was pretty cool" and that should never be accepted. The day we tolerate nazis on HM is the day I leave this server.
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Re: Ban Appeal: Jerome_clegg69

Postby Sweg » Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:20 am

CaptainAdurica wrote:
Sweg wrote:
Tekton9 wrote:No, dumbass, even in this post you still are making it very obvious your views have not changed. You are adamantly refusing to apologize for this hateful viewpoint, and instead repeatedly and very obviously insist that you will not discuss your views on this server, rather than convince us your views have changed. Therefore you should not be let back on the server

I made a little rhyme for you to understand easier.

If they still support Hitler’s ideals,
they aren’t allowed to appeal.



If it’s really that hard to say “I don’t actually support Hitler, I was trolling,” then stop wasting our staffs’ time.

Also why should we trust a man to keep his word on not doing something again if he’s a fucking neo nazi


Stop forcing a person to change their view on life because you dont like it.

@Tek
How do u call him dumbass if you fail to understand that he hasnt changed but said that he will keep his views to himself :|

I’m sorry adu, but are you seriously fucking kidding me? Do you not comprehend the fact that this man supports a group that killed over 6 million innocent people based solely on their religion, mental disabilities, and skin color? I will gladly try to force this guy to change his views, no one in their right mind can stand by this.

I don’t think you understand the shear grasp of what Hitler and his disgusting nazis stood for if you call this a “view on life”. It’s supporing terrorism, genocide, and discrimination.

If you don’t want to force this man to change his views on life then yours could go with some change to.

Sorry if i insulted you here, but you gotta understand that these are more than just views.
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Re: Ban Appeal: Jerome_clegg69

Postby Tekton9 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:23 am

CaptainAdurica wrote:
Sweg wrote:
Tekton9 wrote:No, dumbass, even in this post you still are making it very obvious your views have not changed. You are adamantly refusing to apologize for this hateful viewpoint, and instead repeatedly and very obviously insist that you will not discuss your views on this server, rather than convince us your views have changed. Therefore you should not be let back on the server

I made a little rhyme for you to understand easier.

If they still support Hitler’s ideals,
they aren’t allowed to appeal.



If it’s really that hard to say “I don’t actually support Hitler, I was trolling,” then stop wasting our staffs’ time.

Also why should we trust a man to keep his word on not doing something again if he’s a fucking neo nazi


Stop forcing a person to change their view on life because you dont like it.

@Tek
How do u call him dumbass if you fail to understand that he hasn't changed but said that he will keep his views to himself :|

Um, no? Nazism is not a political viewpoint like the right or the left and can't be looked at as so. If you support the disgusting actions that they took and beliefs that they held that should not be tolerated on a server supposed to be accessible by everyone. If you'd like to argue that Nazism is a legitimate and acceptable political point of view, that is very easy to prove wrong, as it is entirely based on the eradication of "genetically imperfect" human beings. I understand that he has said he will keep his views to himself, but he has continuously refused to separate himself from nazism, and therefore is admitting he still holds hateful views against many others and members of this community. You've become to tolerating and blissfully ignorant if you think that we must accept this within our community.

Honestly, he can keep his views if he wants, but he shouldn't expect to be allowed back on this server.
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Re: Ban Appeal: Jerome_clegg69

Postby General_Wenk » Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:19 am

Tekton9 wrote:No, dumbass, even in this post you still are making it very obvious your views have not changed. You are adamantly refusing to apologize for this hateful viewpoint, and instead repeatedly and very obviously insist that you will not discuss your views on this server, rather than convince us your views have changed. Therefore you should not be let back on the server

I made a little rhyme for you to understand easier.

If they still support Hitler’s ideals,
they aren’t allowed to appeal.



If it’s really that hard to say “I don’t actually support Hitler, I was trolling,” then stop wasting our staffs’ time.


How many times have I apologised?
I have apologised for breaking the rules, you have no right whatsoever to make me apologise for whatever political views I may hold in order to get unbanned.

Whether or not I support 'Hitler's ideals' is completely irrelevant to the matter - being a 'Nazi' is not illegal on the server, but preaching hate is, and that is what I have apologised for and promised not to do again. Is that so hard to understand? Anyway, this thread was intended to remind moderators of my case and not for parrots like you to repeat views that have already been stated a million times.
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Re: Ban Appeal: Jerome_clegg69

Postby AmaidoPro » Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:53 am

Just wanted to mention nazis were not the only ones who hated Jews. Also, in my country there is “Liberty of Expression” which means we can think what we want and we can say what we want without recieving punishment. That is right. In my country you can go running in the streets and scream over what this guy just said and nothing will happen. Sorry for you guys but being a neo-nazi or new nazi is allowed when we have “Liberty of Expression”. What you mods say is that HM is a dictatorship (which it is) where mods rule over players and they don’t have “Liberty of Expression”. Now you will throw at me an oppressive rule from possibly the Common Sense rule for this. Stop being dictators and then disliking other dictatorships please. The players have no influence in any of your decisions for the future of the server and that really threw me off. Good luck with all your silly and oppressive rules. If he wants to say “I will kill the Jews!” let him say it ffs he has only expressed his opinion about Jews and Nazis.
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