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Ban Appeal: Spiderpig2323

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Ban Appeal: Spiderpig2323

Postby ~Spider » Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:42 am

Hello,

A few months ago I was banned, the bantopic is here. viewtopic.php?f=298&t=27643 I was banned for selling premium heads. I disagree with this ban, for the following reasons:

1. No rule
At the time that I sold the heads, there was no rule against selling them. This rule was made after my ban: viewtopic.php?f=168&t=27646 As you can see, the topic was uploaded over an hour after my bantopic was uploaded. I would like to request to be unbanned because I have not violated a rule. It is unfair to ban me for something that I did not know I could be banned for. In real life, it is not allowed either to punish someone for something that was not illegal when they did it. http://echr-online.info/artikel-7-echr/ I know these laws don't apply here, but it does show that this is a generally accepted principle of fairness.

2. Wrong bantime
If you disagree with me and find that I did break a rule, then I think the bantime is wrong. My bantime was decided on with this rule:
Scamming:
The scammed player gets their money back, and the scammer gets a ban of 1 day for every F100 of value scammed.



However, the players I sold the heads to had no disadvantage. They payed for a head and they got a head.

Therefore, if you think that I broke a rule (which I don't think I did), then the bantime should be decided based on this rule:

If someone illegally gains money in a way that is not a direct disadvantage to another player, the ban time will be 1 day of ban for every 200F gained in this way. The money or property that was gained will be taken away from the account.



Because the original ban was made by moderators and this is an appeal, I would like to request an administrator to look into this. This is a more complicated question about the rules, and it is the job of admins to answer these kinds of questions.

Thanks!
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Re: Ban Appeal: Spiderpig2323

Postby JustDo1t » Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:48 am

#UNBANSPIDERPIG2323
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Re: Ban Appeal: Spiderpig2323

Postby ~nCr » Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:49 am

It’ll be nice having you back :D
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Re: Ban Appeal: Spiderpig2323

Postby DeveloperNova » Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:08 am

2 things, for one it is against the rules to sell premium items (which you openly admitted to) so you were rightfully banned, but I do think your ban time was bullshit and have already served the time you deserve.
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Re: Ban Appeal: Spiderpig2323

Postby ~Spider » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:13 am

Bump
<Spiderpig2323>
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HelloMiners Player Since May 19th 2016
Owner And Founder Of Item World Inc.
25% Owner Of ESS
Item World Inc. Networth: F50,000
Networth: F1,400,000
Top Balance: F610,000
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Re: Ban Appeal: Spiderpig2323

Postby Icypenguin79 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:22 am

Your "no rule" point is called ex post facto I think in the US.
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Re: Ban Appeal: Spiderpig2323

Postby ~Spider » Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:30 am

Bump
<Spiderpig2323>
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HelloMiners Player Since May 19th 2016
Owner And Founder Of Item World Inc.
25% Owner Of ESS
Item World Inc. Networth: F50,000
Networth: F1,400,000
Top Balance: F610,000
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Join E3S Discord Today! : https://discord.gg/WXN6p5Y

Re: Ban Appeal: Spiderpig2323

Postby ~Spider » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:18 am

Bump
<Spiderpig2323>
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HelloMiners Player Since May 19th 2016
Owner And Founder Of Item World Inc.
25% Owner Of ESS
Item World Inc. Networth: F50,000
Networth: F1,400,000
Top Balance: F610,000
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Join E3S Discord Today! : https://discord.gg/WXN6p5Y

Re: Ban Appeal: Spiderpig2323

Postby cmvo » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:46 am

lowkey agree, hope to see ya soon buddy
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Re: Ban Appeal: Spiderpig2323

Postby SilverKnight » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:00 am

Full support
Wanna see you back soon! :)
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