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[Report] Sakuraharuno29

Postby Arakorni89 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:34 am

I don't want anything bad to sakura, but she is lying when she claims that she had told me about Daugion owning half of Paradise Hills when I bought it. Here is all the proof needed. I had understood when buying, that Sakura created the entire city which later on turned out to be false. I hereby am not entitled of paying a dime to anyone regarding this issue.

How this started today:
[23:52:13] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [KingOfCamels101] Sak told me that he sold her 50% to you and that daug was still a 50% owner. Looks like you got some explaining to do.
[23:52:19] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [~Sakky -> me] Ya know when I sold you PH I did tell you about the whole Daugion thing right I swear I did
[23:52:40] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [me -> ~Sakky] I have screenies about our conversation, I will post them to rod
[23:52:51] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [~Sakky -> me] Did I though?/helpme [reason]
[23:53:19] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [me -> ~Sakky] I am very disappoined that you try to ***** me up like this
[23:53:30] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [~Sakky -> me] Omg I didnt try anything
[23:53:42] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [~Sakky -> me] Look
[23:53:47] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [~Sakky -> me] This s the story

In the following conversations at 18.Oct and 19.Oct Sakura did not mention anything about Daugion owning 50% of PH. I even asked about all the owners, and sak doesn't tell about Daug. I asked about owning the whole PH alone, and she answers yes.

18. Oct talks: Some pictures are missing but it is all in the logs after pictures
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[22:48:05] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] hi i have changed what im doing i am now selling the whole city wanna buy it you get full ownership of it
[22:48:16] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] i will do it for like half land value
[22:48:24] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [me -> SakuraHaruno29] haha that's big news
[22:48:42] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] so like 60k for like 130k of land
[22:48:52] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] an mazing deal
[22:48:53] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [me -> SakuraHaruno29] all city and expansions for 60k?
[22:49:03] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] the whole city
[22:49:15] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] all for you
[22:49:33] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] then you can be independant
[22:49:37] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [me -> SakuraHaruno29] :O what does trey say about that?
[22:49:44] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] one sec
[22:49:56] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Saved screenshot as 2017-10-18_22.49.56.png
[22:50:00] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Saved screenshot as 2017-10-18_22.50.00.png
[22:50:05] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Saved screenshot as 2017-10-18_22.50.05.png
[22:50:11] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Welcome to the Mavierks Help Home
[22:50:21] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] he fine with it
[22:50:40] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] just asked him
[22:50:59] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [me -> SakuraHaruno29] why do you want to sell this so cheaply?
[22:51:37] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] well because there arent many plots for you to sell
[22:51:46] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] lots to be evicted though
[22:52:29] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [me -> SakuraHaruno29] I see. Can you wait untill tomorrow?
[22:52:52] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] well i have someone esle who may want to buy so you may lose out
[22:52:59] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] and you dont want that?
[22:53:17] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [me -> SakuraHaruno29] Well if that's the case then gl
[22:53:24] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] its a once in a lifetime opportunity
[22:53:36] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] jk i can wait till tomorrow if ya need
[22:53:59] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [me -> SakuraHaruno29] I know but I really haven't prepared for this
[22:54:17] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] dont worry you will do fine
[22:54:26] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [me -> SakuraHaruno29] I had planned other use for money :D but this is a great opportunity
[22:54:43] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] i mean you dont have to go through a massive approval process for a city
[22:54:58] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] the process is like a month
[22:56:12] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] just k let me know in the next day or so just remember it is an amazing opportunity
[22:56:28] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [me -> SakuraHaruno29] at some point I'd like to go through the city with you. Check the boundaries and stuff
[22:56:30] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] one that dosent come often
[22:57:07] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [me -> SakuraHaruno29] Check all the expansions and I want to count the area
[22:57:17] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] that will take a while xd
[22:57:31] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [me -> SakuraHaruno29] like five minutes :D
[22:57:38] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [me -> SakuraHaruno29] jk
[22:57:48] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] but it is def like 110k to 130k
[22:57:56] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [me -> SakuraHaruno29] yeah definitely
[22:58:27] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] as it was 35k in land when i bought i did a 11k expansion then a 188k then a 24k then a 25k then yeah thats ph
[22:58:37] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] 18*
[22:58:45] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] not 188
[22:59:08] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] so yeah!
[22:59:15] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [me -> SakuraHaruno29] Cool! Brb
[22:59:19] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] k
[23:27:29] [Client thread/INFO]: Connecting to play.hellominers.com., 25565
[23:27:30] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Arakorni89 joined the game
[23:27:31] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Don't forget to vote for us! You currently have 0 votes. Do /vote for more info!
[23:27:31] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Welcome, Arakorni89!
[23:27:31] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Welcome to HelloMiners! Visit HelloMiners.com for more info.
[23:27:31] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] You have 1 messages! Type /mail read to view your mail.
[23:27:37] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] ---- Mail: read -- Page 1/1 ----
[23:27:37] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29] hey i had to go in end we can sort out everything tomorrow if ya buy ph i look forward to it


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[21:54:23] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] have ya decided?
[21:54:43] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] (hopses he says i want to buy)
[21:54:43] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [me -> SakuraHaruno29] What happened to Brackett expansion? I went there today and it was in ruins
[21:54:55] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] well i had to un region it
[21:55:05] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] to pay for stuff
[21:55:16] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [me -> SakuraHaruno29] Oh
[21:55:27] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] it got griefed
[21:55:35] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [me -> SakuraHaruno29] well yes indeed
[21:55:42] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] but im sure you could turn it into a lovely place]
[21:56:09] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] and remember 60k for a 130k in land city
[21:56:31] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] a deal that like never comes along]
[21:57:07] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] dont waste this opportunity well if i was you i wouldnt
[21:57:31] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [me -> SakuraHaruno29] to cut long chain of thought short: I am not buying. It's a lovely city but it's complete. There's not this kind of excitement of creating new anymore. Also as monetary investment it's not worth it
[21:57:49] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] wait i have a deal
[21:57:54] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] 40k for it
[21:58:02] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] that is my last deal
[21:58:08] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] plz i need to sell it
[21:58:14] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [me -> SakuraHaruno29] really 40k? I'm sure you can get like 80k off it
[21:58:18] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] that is the best deal ever
[21:58:24] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] nah i cant
[21:58:38] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] and plus i wanna give the city to someone i trust and thats you
[21:59:07] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [me -> SakuraHaruno29] I read that in private cities, if you evict, you need to compensate 2x the original property price to the owner
[21:59:18] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] no you6 dont trust me
[21:59:31] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [me -> SakuraHaruno29] I trust the rules
[21:59:34] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] you can even ask in chat
[21:59:49] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [me -> SakuraHaruno29] I can send you a link to the forum
[21:59:56] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <SakuraHaruno29> everyone when you evict someone you dont have to refund any money do you
[22:00:02] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <~Steel [TNT]> no sak
[22:00:10] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <SakuraHaruno29> see arak
[22:00:14] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <CookieLover3> NO
[22:00:15] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] see
[22:00:33] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <CookieLover3> Arakorni89 if you get evicted u dont get any money back
[22:00:51] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <Arakorni89> "Players who have been inactive for more than 8 months may be evicted from a private city plot, regardless of whether an inactivity rule applied when the plot was bought. The evicted player will be payed a compensation by the city owner."
[22:01:05] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <Arakorni89> "This compensation will be twice the amount that the evicted player originally payed for the plot. If it is unknown how much the evicted player payed, this will be assumed to have been 12F per block. Evictions based on this rule have to be requested by
[22:01:19] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <Arakorni89> by the city owner in the 'Eviction requests' subforum."
[22:01:19] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <SakuraHaruno29> them rules are old arak
[22:01:29] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <SakuraHaruno29> trust me
[22:01:35] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <CookieLover3> Arakorni89 u dont get any money
[22:02:15] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [me -> SakuraHaruno29] If this is indeed an old rule, we have a deal
[22:02:20] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] ok
[22:04:06] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [me -> SakuraHaruno29] I am not saying that you are lying to me, I just have to be sure. This is not the first time that the game rules would be just old
[22:04:18] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [~MisterStark -> me] SakuraHaruno29 says you dont have to charge back any money for evicted plots
[22:05:02] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [me -> ~MisterStark] But these are general Private City rules
[22:05:14] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <Mod ~T90X27> Depends on the city's rules
[22:05:23] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <Mod ~T90X27> Some cities have refunding in their rules, some don't
[22:05:30] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] see depends on city rules
[22:05:36] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <Arakorni89> Oh so private city owner can make own rules about this? Cool
[22:05:37] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [~MisterStark -> me] im just relaying msg... why dont you 2 talk XD
[22:05:41] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <Mod ~T90X27> Government cities evicting you have to refund land value
[22:05:42] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] and there is no refunding in city rules
[22:05:58] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] see raven saves the day
[22:06:02] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [me -> SakuraHaruno29] That's cool :D
[22:06:07] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] so you want it
[22:06:35] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [me -> SakuraHaruno29] I just have to ask a couple of questions. So who are city owners/members at the moment?
[22:07:01] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] well me and trey and then superdrawer staff but you dont have to keep anyonwew
[22:07:05] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] anyone*
[22:07:25] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [me -> SakuraHaruno29] Is the stadium privately owned?
[22:07:29] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] no
[22:07:35] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] you will own that too
[22:07:44] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Saved screenshot as 2017-10-19_22.07.44.png
[22:07:46] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Saved screenshot as 2017-10-19_22.07.46.png
[22:08:06] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [me -> SakuraHaruno29] can you unlock city management chests/doors/signs when I buy?
[22:08:13] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] of course
[22:08:17] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Saved screenshot as 2017-10-19_22.08.17.png
[22:08:29] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] any door passwords are *******
[22:08:59] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [me -> SakuraHaruno29] final question: Will paradise hills city with all expansions cost me 40000F and I become the sole owner? And trey knows about this?
[22:09:03] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Saved screenshot as 2017-10-19_22.09.02.png
[22:09:08] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] yes
[22:09:11] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Saved screenshot as 2017-10-19_22.09.11.png
[22:09:17] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] it becomes your just yours
[22:09:26] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] and i trey left ph anyways
[22:09:39] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [me -> SakuraHaruno29] Sorry that I'm intense. Want to come to ph to make the deal?
[22:09:39] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] he left for our new city
[22:09:43] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Saved screenshot as 2017-10-19_22.09.43.png
[22:09:44] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] yeah
[22:09:49] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Welcome to Paradise Hills!
[22:11:44] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [me -> SakuraHaruno29] you will always be the creator of ph ;)
[22:12:00] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] there is the sign
[22:12:06] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Saved screenshot as 2017-10-19_22.12.06.png
[22:12:06] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] and ik
[22:12:09] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [SakuraHaruno29 -> me] xd
[22:12:09] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [AreaShop] You successfully bought paradisecity.
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Re: [Report] Sakuraharuno29

Postby MyNameIsSakura » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:45 am

Ok so idk what happened but I am sorry I thought I had told you I am offering you 190k in compensation and I will be leaving HM it not cause of this btw I am leaving for personal reasons but yeah
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Re: [Report] Sakuraharuno29

Postby Stlrsfan4 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:46 am

You cannot use that excuse. You legit just started a megastore, and now you're leaving...
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Re: [Report] Sakuraharuno29

Postby Arakorni89 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:47 am

MyNameIsSakura wrote:Ok so idk what happened but I am sorry I thought I had told you I am offering you 190k in compensation and I will be leaving HM it not cause of this btw I am leaving for personal reasons but yeah


Compensate daugion, our deal stands the way it was talked in those logs
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Re: [Report] Sakuraharuno29

Postby Rodney » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:53 am

Arakorni89 wrote:
MyNameIsSakura wrote:Ok so idk what happened but I am sorry I thought I had told you I am offering you 190k in compensation and I will be leaving HM it not cause of this btw I am leaving for personal reasons but yeah


Compensate daugion, our deal stands the way it was talked in those logs

I will try to get a hold of daugion and see his opinion but if he don't respond then you will need to compensate him.
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Re: [Report] Sakuraharuno29

Postby Egor » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:16 am

If Sakura has the chance to compensate Daugion, wouldn’t she just have to pay the original price (60k) to him?
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Re: [Report] Sakuraharuno29

Postby Arakorni89 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:55 am

Egor wrote:If Sakura has the chance to compensate Daugion, wouldn’t she just have to pay the original price (60k) to him?


Ironic, as Sakura sent her entire bal (189k) to you earlier.

I did some digging and found this topic:
viewtopic.php?f=171&t=25120

From this topic you can see that the original owners of Paradise Hills were darkking43 and daugion.
What happens:
1. Late July time darkking43 sells his share of the city to Bloom
2. Somewhere between late July and 17.August Bloom seemingly sells his share to Nate
3. This same period of time Nate sells his share to sakura. From the tread I understood that Nate did tell sakura about daugion owning still half of the city. This all happens before I have even joined the server.
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Re: [Report] Sakuraharuno29

Postby Egor » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:18 am

Arakorni89 wrote:
Egor wrote:If Sakura has the chance to compensate Daugion, wouldn’t she just have to pay the original price (60k) to him?


Ironic, as Sakura sent her entire bal (189k) to you earlier.

I did some digging and found this topic:
viewtopic.php?f=171&t=25120

From this topic you can see that the original owners of Paradise Hills were darkking43 and daugion.
What happens:
1. Late July time darkking43 sells his share of the city to Bloom
2. Somewhere between late July and 17.August Bloom seemingly sells his share to Nate
3. This same period of time Nate sells his share to sakura. From the tread I understood that Nate did tell sakura about daugion owning still half of the city. This all happens before I have even joined the server.

Well, so what does Sakura (Me now) have to pay Daugion?
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Re: [Report] Sakuraharuno29

Postby Dylad » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:02 pm

Egor wrote:
Arakorni89 wrote:
Egor wrote:If Sakura has the chance to compensate Daugion, wouldn’t she just have to pay the original price (60k) to him?


Ironic, as Sakura sent her entire bal (189k) to you earlier.

I did some digging and found this topic:
viewtopic.php?f=171&t=25120

From this topic you can see that the original owners of Paradise Hills were darkking43 and daugion.
What happens:
1. Late July time darkking43 sells his share of the city to Bloom
2. Somewhere between late July and 17.August Bloom seemingly sells his share to Nate
3. This same period of time Nate sells his share to sakura. From the tread I understood that Nate did tell sakura about daugion owning still half of the city. This all happens before I have even joined the server.

Well, so what does Sakura (Me now) have to pay Daugion?

No, if this is true, Sakura would still have to come up with the money since it’s still her responsibility, not yours.
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Re: [Report] Sakuraharuno29

Postby Rodney » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:11 pm

Arakorni89 wrote:
Egor wrote:If Sakura has the chance to compensate Daugion, wouldn’t she just have to pay the original price (60k) to him?


Ironic, as Sakura sent her entire bal (189k) to you earlier.

I did some digging and found this topic:
viewtopic.php?f=171&t=25120

From this topic you can see that the original owners of Paradise Hills were darkking43 and daugion.
What happens:
1. Late July time darkking43 sells his share of the city to Bloom
2. Somewhere between late July and 17.August Bloom seemingly sells his share to Nate
3. This same period of time Nate sells his share to sakura. From the tread I understood that Nate did tell sakura about daugion owning still half of the city. This all happens before I have even joined the server.

What was the land value when you bought the city?
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Player since August 2nd, 2015
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